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One skin issue associated with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) is “mottled skin,” with livedo reticularis being one of most common causes.
This article discusses the potential causes of lupus mottled skin.
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This blog on “Lupus Mottled Skin and the Symptoms” was edited and contributed to by Donald Thomas, MD; author of “The Lupus Encyclopedia.” Parts of this blog post come from “The Lupus Encyclopedia: A Comprehensive Guide for Patients and Health Care Providers, edition 2“
In this article, we will delve into the phenomenon of lupus mottled skin, examining its symptoms, possible causes, and treatments.
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Lupus mottled skin looks like a delicate, lace-like pattern featuring shades of reddish, bluish, purple, or brownish discoloration. These patches often appear in a symmetrical pattern (both sides of the body) on the arms, legs, and torso. Livedo reticularis most commonly affects the legs. Blood vessel constriction near the skin’s surface reduces blood flow in those areas, resulting in the discoloration.
Lupus can impact the blood vessels in the skin, leading to reduced blood flow, a condition known as livedo reticularis. Livedo reticularis is a rash caused by decreased blood flow in small blood vessels beneath the skin. It forms net-like areas of reddish, purplish, or brownish discoloration, especially on the arms and legs. There’s usually no permanent scarring, and it rarely causes significant problems.
Livedo reticularis tends to become more evident during times of stress or exposure to cold temperatures. People with livedo reticularis sometimes (but not always) are positive for antiphospholipid antibodies. People with antiphospholipid syndrome can develop livedo reticularis, as well as a more extreme form of livedo called livedo racemosa. Livedo reticularis improves upon warming, while livedo racemosa is permanent and does not improve with warming.
If livedo reticularis occurs in someone with a stroke, it is called Sneddon syndrome. Sneddon syndrome is sometimes, but not always, due to antiphospholipid antibodies. (This section on livedo reticularis comes from The Lupus Encyclopedia, 2nd edition, chapter 8). The photo page of this website contains a photo of livedo reticularis on a lupus patient.
If lupus causes blood vessel wall inflammation, it is called vasculitis. This inflammation can cause blood vessels to constrict and reduce blood flow, resulting in the mottled appearance.
Some lupus patients have Raynaud’s phenomenon. This is where blood vessels in the extremities narrow in response to cold temperatures or stress, leading to whitish or purplish discoloration at the tips of the fingers and toes. With rewarming, these areas can sometimes turn reddish or pink as blood flow returns. .
Certain medications can cause mottled skin. Beta-blockers, amantadine, and vasoconstrictors can cause livedo reticularis or mottled skin.
This section comes from The Lupus Encyclopedia, 2nd edition, chapter 8: Livedoid vasculopathy is a rare cause of skin ulcers. Livedoid vasculopathy starts with a rash on the arms or legs that can look like livedo reticularis, hence the term “livedoid.” It is caused by an abnormality of the small arteries (vasculopathy) within the skin, causing reduced skin blood flow and painful ulcers, especially on the feet.
“Redness from fire.” If someone repeatedly uses heat sources (like a heating pad) on the same skin area, permanent blood vessel changes can occur that can appear similar to livedo. However, these changes are permanent and do not change with temperature. Or, if you push your finger on them, they do not blanch temporarily, as livedo reticularis usually does. Sitting in front of a fire place too often, using a heating pad repeatedly on the same area, or sitting a lap top frequently on one’s lap are common causes. This condition is called erythema ab igne.
Sometimes health care professionals can easily misinterpret erythema ab igne as a more serious condition, like livedo reticularis or vasculitis. As the patient, it is important to give the history that you regularly expose this area to heat so that a correct diagnosis is made and unnecessary treatments, like steroids, are not prescribed.
“Skin that is marbled.” When someone with SLE has marbled skin, it is not always due to lupus. Around 50% of people will develop areas of skin that look like livedo reticularis and is more pronounced in colder temperatures, called cutis marmorata. It is especially common in babies and is a normal phenomenon.
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Mottled skin is not usually an immediate cause for concern. However, if mottled skin is accompanied by other symptoms, such as pain, numbness, or changes in skin texture, seeking prompt medical evaluation is important.
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Thank you Dr. Thomas!
I just ordered the new edition of The Lupus Encyclopedia.
Thanks for all you do for the Lupus community!
This is an article I needed to read four years ago. I discovered molted skin in a small area on the inside of my right knee, this was immediately after I had a stroke of unknown cause at age 44. I though maybe it was from hospital staff transferring me to the gurney after an MRI. I spent three years trying to figure out what the mottled skin was, which spread up and down both of my legs Ended up doing my own research and a follow up with Rhumatology to learn that it was Livedo R. Apparently I test negative for other autoimmune diagnosis except Lupus. Which is a relief at this point.
Christine: Thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully others will learn from it. Did your doctors end up calling it Sneddon syndrome? Sneddon syndrome is livedo along with stroke in the same patient.
Donald Thomas MD
No diagnosis of SS. A lot of blood work, MRI & CT scans, spinal tap, TEE, angiogram only to receive a diagnosis of Cryptogenic Stroke.
And 4 years later diagnosis of livedo reticularis. It’s been 6 years since the stroke and when I first noticed livedo reticularis. I still feel like something has been missed.
Christine: look at all your old blood work. Some of the most important labs to see if you had done include anti-cardiolipin antibody, lupus anticoagulant, beta-2-glycoprotein I antibody, and ANA.
Donald Thomas, MD
Are SLE patients supposed to get the RSV vaccine?
We recommend RSV vaccine for all of our patients aged 60 and older as they are at higher risk for bad outcomes from RSV infection… Dr T
Hi I’m Ashley from Austin TX I was recently diagnosed with Lupus SLE in September 2023, I just ordered your new book and was extremely curious about the skin reactions of Lupus . My main question is about the (molted skin or livedo reticularis) I have had this EXACT skin problems since 2017 it started small around my (rear end) then down the backside of my legs and now my entire body is covered in the lace like skin rash… and I’ve been to plenty of hospital visits since then but nobody told me anything about Lupus! My skin has the same reactions as described in your work… gets worse with extreme heat or cold, it can get (skin) very dry to were its painful, it gets bright red or small purple spots the whole definition my skin has been like this for years now AND I WAS HEALTHY! never got sick was in the gym twice a day always active I could work 10-14 hr days in retail and did independent contracting work (construction) but only recently this past September when I was hospitalized because (“all the sudden”) I got really sick did I find out about this (molted skin or livedo reticularis) was an ACTUAL symptom of this disease. Is it possible I had Lupus all this time and didn’t know? Is it possible that it can be in your body only to really affect you years later? Has this ever happened to anyone else? Is there a drug that will or can give me clear skin? is this normal? SOS
Ashley: If your rheumatologist confirms the findings as livedo, it could have been one of the first manifestations. SLE can start off with just one problem at a time and add things over time. The livedo markings are not uncomfortable in most people who have them, but the cosmetic changes can be quite troubling, of course. Unfortunately, we really do not have great treatments for livedo. I have seen it improve with warmth, but I cannot truly say that I’ve seen it go away with treatment of the lupus with immunosuppressants or blood thinners. That doesn’t mean to say it won’t (about anything is possible with lupus). I sure hope you do much better in the future.
I hope you find my book useful. Make sure to do everything in chapter 44, The Lupus Secrets. If you like my book, I’d love to see a review on Amazon so you could share your experience with others.
Donald Thomas, MD
Is there a product I can put in my hair to help the extremely itchy dry scalp which I find myself scratching, even during my sleep, and my hair is thinning quickly. I know what alopecia is and suspect that is a problem for me, being just recently diagnosed via dermatology biopsy as having Lupus Erythromatosus and I have been taking Hydroxychloroquine for two years for RA so there seems to be nothing further that can be done to help me. I’m 73 years old and the itchy rash on my hands, arms, neck, shoulders, and face are very discouraging. I am using Vanicream shampoo, facial cleanser, moisturizer and body wash. I protect myself from sunlight with SPF 50. I just don’t know what to do about this itchy dry scalp!
Rayanne: So sorry to hear this. Many people do not realize how miserable pruritis (itchiness) can be. When it occurs at night, people cannot sleep and fatigue then worsens quality of life.
If you were my patient, I’d want to know exactly what the cause of this problem is. Is it a drug reaction? Seborrheic dermatitis? Infection like tinea capitis? Xerotic dermatitis? etc. The treatment depends upon the cause.
My plan would be to send you to my favorite medical dermatologist (someone who is very good with lupus and related disorders and not mainly into cosmetics etc). I rarely do not get a good answer using this approach. Then we can can come up with a successful plan.
I hope this helps and I hope you get a good answer and treatment.
Don Thomas, MD
Dr. Thomas,
I have a bit of a peculiar question for you. I am in my 30’s now but when I was a child, I was diagnosed with HSP. Ever since then, I have had L.Ret. on my legs. It is getting a bit worse as I age (mottled permanent marks that are purple on the side of my thigh) along with the regular red mottled/webbed looking skin all over my legs and feet.
My question is: would or could my adult mottled and webbed skin have anything to do with my HSP as a child?
Christine: That is puzzling as we usually do not think of livedo and HSP (the former is a vasculopathy and the latter is a vasculitis). However, few things are impossible with these disorders. There are mimics of livedo that need to be considered, eg physiologic cutis marmorata and erythema ab igne. The best way to figure it out is to see a medical dermatologist (someone who specializes in disorders like lupus and vasculitis). However, if it is not very bothersome, it may not be worth the trouble.
Thanks for commenting and sharing.
Don Thomas, MD
I have RA like in June I stop taking Methotrexate after a couple weeks I star getting this foliculitis in my buttocks going down to my legs after that I got this purlo color stain something each also I have in my armpit lump they are like purple I want to know if someone have something similar I try my dermatologist and she just send me a cream by still no results of my problem please help !!!
Sorry to hear this, Esperanza. Too often, docs don’t explain things well enough for the patient to understand, and it is your right to know exactly what is going on.
Make a followup appointment.
Write down these questions, hand to your dermatologist as soon as she/he enters the room, tell them, “I’d like to learn more about my problem, could you write down short answers so I can read about them later?”
1. What is the diagnosis?
2. If not sure, what is the differential diagnosis? (the possibilities)
3. What are the potential treatments? I understand that a condition may not be cured by just one type of treatment.
Donald Thomas, MD
I have mottled skin in to both legs same place one month i notices is it dangerous ? Thank you
Chia: Thanks for reading and commenting.
It is rarely dangerous, just unsightly, and I tell patients “your days of being a leg model are over.” … just to lighten up with some humor.
It can be dangerous in a couple of scenarios. If someone with livedo reticularis has very high levels of antiphospholipid antibodies or are triple positive (lupus anticoagulant + cardiolipin + beta-2 glycoprotein 1 ab), then they are particularly at higher risk for blood clots (heart attacks, DVT, PE, stroke etc).
If severe, the lesion can become ulcerated… but this is rare.
I hope yours becomes less noticeable over time.
Donald Thomas, MD
I’m diagnosed with Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease. I have livedo (confirmed by rheumatologists) and tested positive for anti-cardiolipin around 80 (unit not specified) for over a year. Because it was IgM, I was told it wasn’t of much concern. Last November I was told I also tested positive for beta-2 glycoprotein, but IgG this time. I have almost constant lightheadedness and intermittent weak spells. Should I be worried I’m not on blood thinners, even aspirin?
Sarah: Different antiphospholipid antibodies have varying potential for causing blood clots. Certainly high levels of IgG anticardiolipin antibodies (ACLA) are more likely to cause blood clots than IgM, IgM ACLA can still cause blood clots. Having two different APLAs (like IgM ACLA and beta-2 glycoprotein I antibodies) increase the risk further.
However, we need to see if these are recurrently positive. In other words, we repeat them 3 months later. If negative, then they may have been caused by something else, like infection and not be important (so repeats are important to check for clinical significance).
Even if persistently positive, 50% of patients will not get blood clots. Measures like exercise, controlling glucose levels, maintaining normal weight, eating healthy, normalizing blood pressure and cholesterol and taking low dose aspiring may reduce the risk.
We also watch this type of patient to ensure they do not develop systemic lupus.
There must be a reason why your doctors checked these. So they must be considered within the clinical presentation regarding their significance.
Good luck and thanks for asking,
Donald Thomas, MD
hi so i’ve been getting a mottled skin pattern since around third grade. it seems to flare and go away. some of my doctors are suspecting lupus but i haven’t heard it be connected until now. I also don’t know if it’s normal for it to appear during flares and then go away.
Maya: The most common reason for a child getting this would be “cutis marmorata” which is a benign condition. Typically comes more prounounced with cold temperatures.
The alternative would be something else like livedo reticularis in someone with juvenile onset lupus. However, they tend to be very sick with the livedo onset.
See a dermatologist and ask them if it could be cutis marmorata. If so… nothing to worry about.
btw… I actually have had cutis marmorata all my life on my legs… it is not uncommon
Donald Thomas, MD
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